“I loved NPR, I still do,” Pesca told me on The Pub. “I kind of love it for its flaws, as well. Among them, a stodginess.”
Pesca, whose work as a sports correspondent for NPR was more bombastic and humorous than typical NPR fare, has been freer to cultivate his talents and eccentricities in his new primary gig, hosting The Gist podcast for Slate.
“For those of us who worked at [NPR’s] New York bureau with Mike, that he wasn’t given his own show was a source of constant confusion and frustration,” said Planet Money co-founder Adam Davidson, who left NPR not long after Pesca.
This week on The Pub, Pesca talks about life after NPR, how public media looks from the outside, his rabble-rousing interview with Kim Kardashian while sub-hosting Wait Wait . . . Don’t Tell Me! and whether he thinks NPR has heeded his parting advice to be more ambitious and daring. (He doesn’t.)
“It seems like they have their things that work, and then they very, very cautiously — off the things that work — toe-touch into things very related to the things that work,” Pesca said of his former workplace.
Also on the show:
- Gayle Wald on her new book about Soul!, an early PBS show featuring black music, culture and radical politics that CPB defunded. (If you’re looking for old episodes of Soul!, here are full shows with Stevie Wonder, Billy Preston, Louis Farrakhan, Taj Mahal, Al Green and Earth, Wind & Fire.)
- Georgia Public Broadcasting’s Emily Jones on the real reason that women’s voices are the subject of so much scrutiny these days.
- I reflect on the differences between podcasting and live radio, following my stint guest-hosting Celeste Headlee’s new show On Second Thought.
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Adam Ragusea hosts Current’s weekly podcast The Pub and is a journalist in residence and visiting assistant professor at Mercer University’s Center for Collaborative Journalism.