When Alan Chartock, president of Northeast Public Radio in Albany, N.Y., was on a wife-imposed Mexican vacation, despite her objections he still found a way to call in for his five-day-a-week 7:34 a.m. spot.
Chartock, 70, lives and breathes the media institution he created nearly single-handedly in 1981. He’s on air most days and often hosts two weekly shows, one about medicine and the other about media.
If you are one of the 450,000 monthly listeners to mother station WAMC or its 22 repeaters in the hilly towns and valleys where New York meets Vermont and Massachusetts, you know a lot about Chartock.
You know he’s always trying a new diet (currently, no white food). You know he’s obsessed with exercise and his health. You know he thinks hydrofracking is bad for the environment and health. You know he’s in favor of the millionaires’ tax on New York’s top wage-earners. That he doesn’t like Rupert Murdoch. And that he has a dog named Murray, worships Pete Seeger, plays the banjo and is married to “the most wonderful woman in the world, Roselle.”
You would have seen six photos of him on the home page of WAMC’s website last week. You know him simply as “This is Alan.” Like Cher, no last name required.
“I can think of no other public radio manager that has as much power as Alan Chartock,” said Mark Vogelzang, new president of Maine Public Broadcasting. As a Wall Street Journal columnist noted in October, there is a “cult of Alan.”
He is also famously feared by some in the state capital because of the influence that comes with running the local public radio station. It was surprising how often New Yorkers said things to Current like, “You absolutely can’t quote me. We are afraid of him. Alan can publicly smear you because he’s got a great bully pulpit.”
“Alan has an account for everybody,” said one former staffer who requested anonymity. “You have a deficit and a balance. He’s always aware of what that balance is.”
But even those who don’t like him seem to respect him for all he has done to make WAMC a local powerhouse. The Wall Street Journal column by Ralph Gardner Jr. about Chartock could only be described as a paean.
“Don’t discount the raves,” said Rosemary Armao, a journalism professor at the State University of New York, Albany, and a biweekly guest on WAMC’s The Media Project. “He’s a tremendous talent. He’s an excellent interviewer. He is one of the most gifted teachers. There’s a reason there’s a cult of Alan. He’s a fascinating man, and he’s complicated.”
In November, CPB’s new ombudsman, Joel Kaplan, concluded that Chartock has too much power — that he shouldn’t be both a manager and a commentator. Kaplan did not accuse him of abusing that power, but he says Chartock treats WAMC as if he owns the station, which is not how public radio stations are expected to operate.
“It’s not his own personal fiefdom or station,” Kaplan told Current. “It belongs to the public, as do all the public radio and television stations.”
WAMC is remarkably successful, Kaplan wrote in his column, adding, “But its board of directors might want to rethink whether it is the best policy for WAMC’s president and CEO to use that radio station as a forum to voice his personal opinions.”
What concerns Kaplan and others is that Chartock appears on many WAMC shows and often shares his opinions. For example, he regularly hosts the call-in show, Vox Pop, and never holds back if he disagrees, though he’s respectful of callers.
Kaplan, CPB’s part-time ombudsman and a journalism professor at Syracuse University, wrote about Chartok in response to a note from a WAMC listener, a Democrat, who complained to the CPB ombudsman that Chartock may be endangering the public radio system by broadcasting his progressive views so freely.
“I feel that the outrageous behavior of Dr. Chartock of WAMC and some like him jeopardizes the future of the medium,” wrote Richard A. Peters. “I also strongly object to the use of my tax dollars to support the personal opinions of Dr. Chartock.”
Lisa Phillips, who headed the Hudson Valley Bureau for WAMC from 1998 to 2003, said that listeners tend to conflate their local station with NPR. “So when Alan speaks, it’s perceived that he’s speaking for all of public radio,” she said. “This at a time when NPR is striving to cultivate an image of utter, flawless objectivity and nonpartisanship.”
While Chartock’s leanings are decidedly left, Phillips and others who have worked for him say he never imposes his views on staff reporting. They say they are never told whom to put on the air, and even with an issue like hydrofracking, which Chartock opposes, the staff is encouraged to cover all sides.
Chartock is skilled at talking to his base, which is largely liberal and Democratic and lives in the affluent Hudson Valley and Berkshires. Albany County’s government is overwhelmingly Democratic, and so is the state Assembly.
“There’s an incredible hunger for a voice that is not Rush Limbaugh,” said Phillips. “People find WAMC and think, ‘Oh, here’s a voice for the people of this region.’”
Chartock has a Ph.D. in political science, is an emeritus professor at SUNY Albany and is often referred to as Dr. Chartock. The professor and broadcaster also can be described without dispute as an expert on New York state government. He also writes two weekly newspaper columns and publishes the student-run Legislative Gazette, which covers the state legislature.
Chartock, citing the First Amendment, said there is nothing wrong with opining on the airwaves, especially since he presents his opinions as his own and not as those of the stations.
He did not take kindly to the ombudsman’s criticism, pointing out that Kaplan works for a university that holds the license for pubradio station WAER.
“I think there might be a little jealousy at work,” said Chartock. “I think his commentary makes no sense, and frankly, I’m a little ticked off. I’ll tell you why. No. 1, it’s a matter of free speech. We here at the station take that very seriously. No. 2, who is this guy?”
Rewards of pledging
Chartock cites jealousy because WAMC does quite well with pledge drives. Each of its last three pledge drives raised $1 million, he said. During fundraisers, Chartock moves into an apartment above the station rather than commute to his home an hour away in Great Barrington, Mass.
That $3 million amounts to about half of WAMC’s $6.4 million of revenue — the rest comes from mainly from underwriting, some grants and CPB. Chartock earned $170,582 — or 2.71 percent of expenses — for fiscal year 2010, according to Charity Navigator.
The typical public radio practice is to use several fundraising tactics at once — strategically employing on-air appeals, emails, telemarketing, direct mail and online donations to interrupt programming as little as possible.
Chartock does it differently. “We do very little direct marketing,” he said. Instead, pledge becomes a family affair, turning over the airwaves to WAMC hosts and the audience and preempting most national programming.
“We consider the fund drives as a regular part of our programming,” said Chartock. “This is an opportunity for our audience to gather to exchange views. We read every comment and every name that gives money. It’s been like that for 30 years. I think some of the resentment I hear from the naysayers is that they can’t do it. There are very few stations that can make $1 million in a fundraiser compared to the proportion of people listening.”
WAMC’s most recent fund drive also raised the ire of the CPB ombudsman because the station offered in exchange for a 99-cent donation a button that says, “I support WAMC Northeast Public Radio & Occupy Wall Street,” with a big red “99%” superimposed. Chartock told the ombudsman he couldn’t think of any premiums designed for conservative listeners.
“The button issue as a premium is a problem,” said Kaplan. “It reflects that they have a point of view and are supporting the movement. Their defense was, it was a successful premium — maybe [a premium designed for conservatives] would be successful, who knows?”
Chartock and his top aides repeatedly cite free speech as their defense and note that WAMC has conservative commentators on air.
“I and this radio station will never succumb to those people who want to shut us up,” said Chartock. “I believe some of what is going on here is intended to shut us up.” The ombudsman’s comments will be an issue during the next fund drive, he predicted.
Chartock-watchers say he sometimes chooses a “bad guy” to fundraise against. Often the adversary is NPR, which Chartock feels charges his station too much for its national programs — $800,000 a year.
They bought a college station
Chartock got interested in WAMC in 1979 when he was a political-science professor. Back then, Albany Medical College held the license, and the station struggled to cover its costs. It decided to transfer the license to WAMC, which incorporated as an independent nonprofit. For years, Chartock held both top positions at the station, serving as its board chair as well as its top exec.
Today, WAMC runs mainly local programming with such shows as The Round Table, Capitol Connection, Medical Monday, In Our Backyard, 51%: The Women’s Perspective, and the call-in show, Vox Pop.
Most famously, in the late 1990s Chartock had a weekly show with Mario Cuomo, former governor and Democratic Party icon, titled Me and Mario. Cuomo’s successor, Republican George Pataki, wasn’t interested in a similar arrangement, said Chartock.
Between July 2009 and July 2010, the station produced 46 hours a week of original programming, according to Selma Kaplan, v.p.
Within the pubradio system, Chartock is a firebrand known for, as he would say, “speaking truth to power.” He is known for his strong personality, moral certitude and readiness for conflict.
Mark Fuerst is a public radio veteran and consultant to stations and to Current who lives in WAMC’s listening area. Fuerst, like many who know Chartock, has conflicting assessments of WAMC’s manager. He admires the radio host for his interviewing skills, his deep political knowledge, his fundraising acumen and how he’s expanded the station. WAMC’s transmitters reach into seven states, extending to parts of Connecticut, southwestern New Hampshire, Canada, and New York City’s suburbs.
But many think Chartock has made WAMC too much about him.
“I know lots of public radio managers who have healthy egos but perfectly understand that they are temporarily managing a public resource,” said Fuerst. “That’s their role. It’s not about them. One of the reasons that some people don’t like Alan is that they feel he stepped over that line.”
Chartock is legendary for picking fights with other public broadcasters and trying to encroach on their territories. Two adjoining licensees with regional names nearly as ambitious as Chartock’s Northeast Public Radio — North Country Public Radio in Canton, N.Y., and New England Public Radio in western Massachusetts — have battled with Chartock to keep WAMC’s repeaters out of their territories, not always successfully.
In 2008 WAMC tried to take over an FM frequency, 91.7 MHz, in Lake Placid, N.Y., from North Country Public Radio. North Country had operated a translator there for 20 years. Both systems wanted to put in a full-power transmitter. North Country ended up spending $30,000 on legal costs to fend off WAMC’s application, according to General Manager Ellen Rocco.
As Chartock enters his 70s, his board is concerned about succession issues. When asked what would happen if he were hit by a bus, WAMC Director of Underwriting Dona Frank said, “The bus would crumble.”
Chartock has no plans to retire. He still gets up at 3 a.m., is in the car by 4 a.m. and then spends an hour on an exercise bike at WAMC before beginning his day.
“There’s no denying all the things he’s accomplished,” said Vogelzang. “He’s smart. He’s grown an extensive public radio network, and he will stay there until the day he dies.”
Chartock says his wife worries that his workaholic ways will kill him and is always trying to get him to relax or travel. “She says I’m going to kill myself. If that’s the case, killing myself for WAMC is worth it.”
Correction: An earlier version of this article mistakenly said that Albany Medical College sold the license for WAMC to Chartock’s nonprofit. The license was transferred with no money changing hands.
Fair assessment. There would be no WAMC without Alan Chartock. But his complete domination results in mediocre fare. Many feel the same way. I recently hosted a trivia game at a Hudson, NY, bookstore. Between rounds I took an informal poll. Of the 30 people there, some 20 listened to public radio. Unfortunately, 16 streamed WNYC from New York rather than listen to local WAMC. When asked why, almost all cited Chartock.
This is so true, so sad. Maybe an opportunity for social media? A kickstarter campaign to kick Chartock to the curb? Participants pledge to donate to the station provided he retires?
A correction is in order. Reporter Shepard writes, “Chartock got interested in WAMC in 1979 when he was a political-science professor. Back then, Albany Medical College held the license, and the station struggled to cover its costs. With four days of fundraising, Chartock and a small group accumulated $129,000, bought the station from the college, and set up WAMC as an independent nonprofit.”
The fact is that at no time did Mr. Chartock and his group ‘buy’ WAMC’s broadcast license from long-time licensee Albany Medical College. Rather, Chartock, who’d earlier in his career worked for a then-powerful political leader in the New York State Legislature, prevailed on his mentor to get the Legislature and New York State Board of Regents to back transfer of the FM license to Chartock and his private group. WAMC’s FM broadcast license was then the property of the taxpayers of the State of New York (via the Board of Regents) since 1948 when FCC first assigned the frequency to the State-owned Regents-controlled Albany Medical College. In 1981, that broadcast frequency, with main antenna facilities across the border in Massachusetts, atop that state’s highest peak, Mt. Greylock (resulting in a multi-state primary listening area of extreme commercial value), would have garnered a sale price in the millions of dollars had the license, instead of being given away, been put up for public auction to benefit the New York State treasury. Instead, Chartock’s newly incorporated ‘not-for-profit’ was ‘gifted’ the frequency by the Regents and the Legislature and New York State’s taxpayers never received compensation from the transfer of this valuable state asset to a private group with political connections.
You can take issue all you like with how Chartock acquired the license, but there is no way that signal was worth “millions” back in 1981. No FM frequency was worth all that much before the TelComm Act of 1996, because of the strict ownership limits by the FCC, and the content restrictions (i.e. “underwriting” vs “advertising”) on NCE license severely limited their market value.
That’s also true because you didn’t see the massive growth of religious broadcasting in the NCE band nationwide until 1988 when the FCC allowed FM translators in the NCE band (88.1-91.9FM) to be fed via satellite (the infamous “Moody Bible Institute” ruling).
That’s not to say it was worthless, but I seriously doubt WAMC would’ve fetched more than several hundred thousand dollars. Perhaps a million but that feels unlikely.
Hi HellerGM, can you cite a source that would confirm this? We’d like to correct this if we are in fact in error. Thanks.
Hi Glen — thanks for pointing this out. I checked with the station, and they confirmed that our story was inaccurate. I’ve corrected the error.
Chartock is actually setting an excellent example for how NPR stations can be operated. You know exactly where Chartock stands and it’s invariably a stand to better his local community. Even if you hate Alan, you know he’s trying to make things better. Maybe not better for you personally, but better overall.
Yes, it’s very off-putting to some but it’s also very loyalty-generating for others…hence why his pledge drives are so insanely successful. And it’s very appropriate for a time when people are unwilling to accept impartiality as a virtue. Either you stand for something or everyone else is going to stand against you; there isn’t really an in-between.
The problem is that he hasn’t set up a succession plan worth a damn. He’s 70 and the entire financial and programmatic success of the station revolves around him and him alone. That’s a recipe for disaster for when he retires (unlikely) or dies (unfortunately inevitable).
It’s also a little dicey in that I think they’ve gotten a bit lazy in relying on Alan’s star power in pledge drives instead of working every possible funding source as much as is practical. You gotta diversify.
WAMC – the AMC is for Alan’s Myopic Content
Take political viewpoints and fundraising prowess out of the equation. Do you ever listen to a radio station or watch a tv station that has the same person included in half the programming? If I turn on NPR, I don’t want to hear Robert Siegel all day. If I turn on Fox News, I don’t want to hear Bill O’Reilly or Rush Limbaugh all day.
I’ve lived in PA, OH, IA, TX, IL and most recently NY. Never before, in any of those states, did I have a local NPR affiliate that had a CEO use the station as their personal soapbox. As a relatively recent transplant to the area, I find it both narrow minded and small minded to allow one person (no matter what their political slant is) to have so much air time on a public radio station.
I have listened to WAMC for over 30 years. To me Alan’s frequent on-air presence is like traveling to NYC: you put up with it rather than enjoying every minute of it, but the trip is worth it. To be sure there are stinkers in the WAMC line-up, one example being The Media Project, with its inane back-slapping by participants, which for some reason, time-wise, seems to take up much of the program, often overshadowing the sometimes excellent commentary squeezed into the time allotted, once they get down to business. There are other shortcomings as well. Yet, on balance, I agree with Alan when he points to the cultural battle taking place in the US media landscape. It’s not Alan’s fault if Sinclair, Fox, and other harbingers of negative change are in the ascendency. I’m not even sure it matters if these growing media voices are conservative, libertarian, religious, or otherwise. The point is simply that they are ideological. In contrast, say what you will about Alan’s politics, they are firmly in the liberal democratic vein, which includes a place for conservative voices as based on constitutional values widely held. For this reason I support WAMC with my money and will continue to do so.
8 years later, what has happened? It would be great to have an update on the issues mentioned in this article.